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August 30 Are East and West Pakistan the Model for Gaza and the West Bank?There are so many urgent dossiers in this world to take care of altogether such as the future of our whole planet and from our own end what we see environmentally definitely confirms the emergency that we set the priorities where they belong. Are we going to lose anymore time on uniting Gaza and the West Bank when truly one is land detached from (Jordan) and the other one from Egypt( Gaza)already this sets a different Palestinian history. Karole du Pont March 13 The offset package for the level of justice desired by Muslims is a law against heinous speeches that they must apply 100% at home.Comment to: “Islamic States: Criminalize defamation of Islam.” The offset package for the level of justice desired by Muslims is a law against heinous speeches that they must apply 100% at home.
Legally this is an impossible constitutional archetype which will lead to corruptions in Law because fighting constitutional attacks to the Islam faith cannot keep Muslims in criminal activities above suspicion or derogatory to Islam free from prosecution since no Muslim can profess anything contrary to previous truths given by God to previous prophets and messengers preceding Muhammad. No one is above the law. A lot of Muslims evangelisers are reported professing heinous speeches against Christians and Jews and sometimes it went as far as incitement to crime Karole du Pont
Islamic states: Criminalize defamation of Islam Mar. 12, 2009 The Islamic states circulated a new resolution at the current session of the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva on Wednesday that would criminalize defamation of Islam as a human rights violation and encourage the imposition of Shari'a. According to the nonbinding governmental resolution, titled "Combating Defamation of Religions," anything deemed insulting to Islamic sensitivities would be banned as a "serious affront to human dignity" and a blatant violation of religious freedom. The resolution would attempt to influence "local, national, regional and international levels" to incorporate such guarantees of this perceived freedom in their "legal and constitutional systems." "It is a covert package coordinated by Pakistan against the West," said Leon Saltiel, director of communications at the Geneva-based human rights group UN Watch, on Thursday. "They think there is too much liberty and freedom of expression in the Western world, which therefore defames religion." This resolution is part of the ongoing campaign of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, a powerful bloc of 56 states at the UN, which began to introduce annual resolutions in 1999 to ban the "defamation of Islam." Hillel Neuer, executive director of UN Watch, said during an address to Radio Free Europe in December that "Islamic states pursued the diplomatic battle with a vengeance" because of the post-9/11 war on terror and the controversy ignited by the cartoon of their prophet published in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten in September 2005. "The resolutions pose a major threat to the premises and principles of international human rights law and harm Muslims as much as non-Muslims. International law already protects victims of religious discrimination," for instance via the 1984 Declaration of Human Rights and the 1966 International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights, declared Neuer. The resolutions fail to address human rights violations of Muslim countries, notably Iran's persecution of Baha'is, Saudi Arabia's banning of all religious practice aside from Islam, and the persecution of Christian communities in Egypt, Pakistan and Iraq. The latest resolution is "not really trying to protect individuals from harm," but rather attempting "to shield a set of beliefs from question or debate and to ban any discussion of Islam that may challenge state orthodoxies or offend Islamic sensibilities," Neuer said. Wednesday's resolution would immediately target moderate Muslims from the countries sponsoring the resolution with "state-sanctioned blasphemy laws," UN Watch said in a statement. It would also target the Western media, which the resolution accuses of "deliberate stereotyping of religions, their adherents and sacred persons." Although similar resolutions have been passed for the past couple of years, this resolution is of particular importance because "the ideas of the resolution will be incorporated into Durban texts," said Saltiel, referring to the UN Durban Review Conference on Racism to be held in Geneva next month. "If the resolution is passed enough times, it becomes an international legal norm," Saltiel said. "Tragically, given that Islamic states completely dominate the Human Rights Council, with the support of non-democratic members like Russia, China and Cuba, adoption of the regressive resolution is a foregone conclusion," UN Watch said. The "Combating Defamation of Religions" resolution will be voted on March 26-27, giving organizations in Geneva such as UN Watch two weeks to mobilize international opposition to it, Saltiel said. In December, Neuer declared that "the most dire threat is coming from Geneva, where an Algerian-chaired subcommittee of the UN's upcoming Durban II racism conference has this week been seeking to amend international human rights treaty law to ban 'defamation of religion,' especially Islam. "Eleanor Roosevelt, whose universal declaration we celebrate this month on its 60th anniversary, must be turning in her grave," he said. Since December, Algeria has drafted an international protocol on that theme, due to be brought before the UN General Assembly in September. This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com /servlet/Satellite?cid=1236764174608&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull[ Back to the Article ] Copyright 1995- 2009 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/January 08 Justice for world historical minorities is made up of an operative principle in reconstructive justice and the partition of Palestine was it's 100% application.It never meant that no Jew could live in Arab lands or Arab in Jewish lands but they could not question the right of these lands to promote their cultural survival and defend themselves in their specificity. For instance, in Canada, Quebec had to protect its long term specificity in the French language with Bill 101 and by the right to chose its immigrants.
Dear Mustafa:
First of all, I have not read President Carter's book so I won't comment on his book
As far as the comments on the army or police, Mrs. Shulamit Aloni (Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel) is not writing about Canada where Canadians know that weaponry won't settle any constitutional question. Rule of Law is rule of law! When there is rule of law... army or police cannot make any security rules which are an infringement on freedoms.. and governments cannot make laws infringing on those freedoms using security as a reason. Just bomb the US and just see how fast your land will be occupied. Any American President would have to send the US army on any two US States that would be fighting because no constitutional disagreement will be settled by bombs in the US. Palestinians are not helping themselves by using violent means to state their case.
Arabs still refuse the fact that the transfer of populations were not completed at most of these UN resolutions and from Iraq there was definitely one since the majority of Babylonian Jews left for Israel mostly in the 1950's and the great remainder after the public hangings of Babylonian Jews in 1969. The UN will have to deal with the historical rights of the Babylonians. Tell President Carter to do so.
I mean he probably left this out too. Justice is a principle not numbers... When Jews say Arabs are occupying their historical lands this is 100% correct as much as Babylonian Jews were granted 100% emancipation in Babylon. The region in the world called Judea was named for no other people.
Most Jews leave out the Babylonian equation as Arabs do... I mean if for instance you did not know that we still have Mohawks in Canada, it does not mean that your ignorance entitles you to take away their rights to recognition of ancestral rights and have to observe them in some reconstructive justice principle. The UN was recognizing the rights of Jews to their ancestral land home in the Middle East and this is basically the essence of the partition of Palestine ...
This is no war against Muslims; it's a basic scientific fact that the ancestral lands of Jews are in the Middle East and it's also a basic historical fact that most of the governing community of the Jews in Jerusalem was historically deported to Babylon and then emancipated. It's also basic to understand that had this governing Babylonian community had its ancestral land it would have hosted Jews in danger at the time of WWII and other previous perilous events. So it may be great for European Jews to talk about persecution in Europe as an idea of argumentation of a Jewish State(Herzl) but Babylonian Jews never lost rights to claim their ancestral lands... in Jerusalem. I mean wars or no wars the Natives never lost their constitutional rights of nations in Canada defeat or no defeat and the same applies to those deported Jews from Jerusalem in Babylon.
So yes President Carter accomplished something great with his participation in the peace in between Israel and Egypt but there was no Jerusalem Jews deported to Babylon in that peace equation. The signature of a peace treaty was great but it could not be truly enforced in the Middle East because Arabs refused historically to acknowledge that Babylonian Jewry could claim its rights and thus its governing rights and till today Arabs are unhappy with the unfolding of a violent history. The Babylonian community was caught thus in between a flaming Middle East where they did not agree with many things on both sides but they could not support the European continental extermination thus an attempt to a world extermination of the Jews and it did come to a very close execution of that plan in WWII.
Babylonian Jews were also very much at risk in WWII;many sent their families abroad for that period... especially after the Farhud notably in India. It goes to say that what Hamas profess and that Arabs and Muslims are financing in sustaining Hamas discourse according to which Jews must go back to Europe is a total refutation of the needs for a World recognition of a Jewish homeland for all World Jewry. Babylonian Jewry cannot refute this because they did not have any army to defend them against a pro-Nazi Jerusalem Mufti and claim their ancestral rights.
All the problems in justice and violence stems from an unwilling recognition that Arabs are living on lands that can be claimed as historical homelands to Jews as an operative principle in reconstructive justice and with a fully associated right to defend it both military and with proper policies in immigration and education. Multiculturalism must be adjusted in respect of this inside that land so that numbers of inhabitants never become a threath to the constitutional identity of the country. I thus repeat that Mohawks in Canada will not lose that right to an operative principle in reconstructive justice as we have seen in the aftermath of OKA event of 1990 in Quebec and will not lose that right to defend themselves and it is the same for other First nations .
How come in Canada we can achieve respecting the various identities and their constitutional rights with rule of LAW?
I mean are we so exceptional on this planet?
Perhaps is it because those identities are well defined and protected according to their real risks in cultural survival as well as in organic appearance on our territory. That shows the basic Native constitutional quality of Canada even if there are so few Natives compared to the total number of Canadians.
So Arabs have no right to take the Jewish identity from the lands in the Middle East and even more in the area called Palestine by them where is located the ancestral Jewish homeland as much as we would have no rights to take the Native identity from Canada.
The best way to discredit Islam is just that pretending that Jews have no ancestral lands depending on who invaded them and where they were taken to or fled to... which is exactly what Muslim Arabs did showing that there is no world justice in terms of Islamic rule.
Natives in Canada were invaded by different Europeans nations namely the French and the British and no one dared not recognize their ancestral lands till today and our federal and provincial governments will enforce this recognition.
SO where are you Arabs and Muslims enforcing the rights to peace of Babylonian Jews on their ancestral lands? In Canada, habeas corpus was repealed in period of terrorism such as we have known in Quebec in 1970 with the FLQ with much less than what the PA has let inflicted on the Israeli population since the OSlO accord.
Karole du Pont
December 29 Islam can neither fail Solomon or SaladdinReconstructive justice is a principle that transposes a spirit of the law not a full map blue print of the past of any past Era. Saladdin could not have been a Taliban and Solomon understood the nature of nations. Both could acknowledge that differences could be in harmony.
Karole du Pont August 06 Establishing guidelines to (Interfaith) theological parleyA comment over two articles published in the Jerusalem Post about the first Interfaith parley hosted by KIng Abdullah of Saudi Arabia recently.
Seems there is no real guidelines to an interfaith parley: basic problem.
An interfaith parley is not a public relation exercise or a war settlement! It's first and foremost a theological discussion flowing from the relationship in between the Godly virtues of love, justice and truth and how they can permeate better humanity i.e. the planet constitutionally. It's about respect for God and His creation. It's not about deforming the religious identities but upgrading our different constitutional identities peacefully towards a greater expression of love, justice and truth for no one will be able to disprove the basic necessity of constitutionally incrementing them. If our minds and hearts must be the temple of God obviously there must be a universal conception of respecting identities and our duties towards God and His creation.
In the pre-confederation conferences in Canada held in the early 1860's (Charlottetown and Quebec), we debated on the subject of "is confederation good or not?". We were debating the idea not of who was attending the conference for all parties( government and opposition) were invited to send their best debaters.
Karole du Pont
Right of Reply: Peeling the myths off Saudi Arabia Aug. 4, 2008
TANYA CARIINA HSU , THE JERUSALEM POST In Isi Leibler's "Candidly Speaking" (July 29), we read the same myths regarding the kingdom of Saudi Arabia; sweeping statements are presented as immutable fact. In 2005, one of my closest professional partners (as well as closest friends) and I planned for and created a model for a Saudi-sponsored interfaith dialogue to be ideally hosted by King Abdullah in Spain. We worked on the concept in Riyadh, where I live. (For the record, she is Jewish and visits the kingdom frequently.) We submitted the business plan to specific members of the royal family, and three years later the dialogue materialized almost exactly as we imagined. It may well be that our idea was coincidence and incidental to the king's own interfaith dialogue, as we were not part of further planning, but either way the desired outcome has been achieved. We also, however, expected precisely the sort of media response printed - that in effect, any Jewish representative who participated on behalf of Judaism would, indeed, be placating the king or appeasing Saudi sensibilities. Any progress made in discussing globally relevant issues, specifically similarities and differences of religions, would be somehow offensive. Or, as written in The Jerusalem Post, they would be "grovelling" or "intoxicated." Yet, if the king or any other Saudi official did not initiate this dialogue, no doubt it would be nanoseconds before it was written that the Saudis failed, once again, to make strides toward peace. ONE CANNOT win for losing, but as the African proverb goes: "The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is now." King Abdullah, unlike counterparts in Israel, has planted that tree. Leibler also repeats the oft-cited myth of "state sponsored export of Wahhabism" that has produced a network of sanctified violence. There is no such thing as "Wahhabism," just as there is no such thing as ""Maimonism." As you should know, madrassa is merely the Arabic word for school, madrassa al-din specifies a religious school, and there is no evidence yet to support any direct link between a madrassa and fighters in Afghanistan, Palestine or Iraq. In fact, there have been no convictions for terrorist activities in the United States of any Saudi, which would indicate that they have certainly had no success whatsoever for their supposed multi-billion dollar export of a radical doctrine. It certainly seems a poor cost-benefit analysis. Additionally, the depictions of Jews are yet another story that won't die, and I have addressed the Saudi textbooks and education directly to the US Congress and do not need to repeat here, or specify Torah or Talmud chapter and verse for comparison. The depictions of Muslims and Arabs, specifically Saudis, however, remains abhorrent within Israel at times, just as in many parts of the world. The difference appears to be that Saudis have little ability to recruit the media to their cause, and have almost no ability to boast about their culture and their views to meet the rapidly changing news cycles. They thereby too often fail to quash these sweeping and persistent generalizations, despite all their excessive cash. Also regurgitated is the notion that Jews are forbidden entry to Saudi Arabia. This is completely untrue, but these rumors have existed for decades, begun by US Aramco employees. Despite all corrections from the Saudis, they remain ignored. Clarifying that those with Israeli passports are not permitted entry into the kingdom (akin to no American being permitted to enter Cuba or Iran, for example), the policy rests on the political situation between the two nations. I feel safe in assuming that neither Fidel Castro nor Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would be invited to many Israeli-sponsored conferences either. FINALLY, LET me address the state of Islam in Saudi Arabia. It is correct to state that it is the official religion, but that is all it is. The confirmation is in the Constitution of Saudi Arabia. It states "Islam," not Sunni, not Sufi, not Shi'ite, not Ismaeli - just plain Islam, full stop. Indeed, would it not be foolish to ban Jews or Christians from the kingdom, given the assumption that the Saudis are spending vast quantities of petrodollars on exporting Islam? Are Jews not the very people whom they would wish to "convert"? Why, until relatively recent history and migration to Israel, were Jews living safely in Arabia, having existed there since the days of Abraham? Actually, why did the prophet marry a Jew, if not to show peace among religions? It is understandable that some may choose words - sharper than swords - to block the path of peace and progress given the prism of Islam from within Israel. As occupiers of a predominantly Muslim land pre-1948, and as occupiers of the predominantly Muslim West Bank and Gaza, those fighting to preserve what is left of their land may "represent" to Israel all of Islam. Yet I suspect that the vast majority of Israeli Jews do not wish to be represented by the likes of the late Baruch Goldstein either, even though his slaughter of Muslims in 1993 was not in defense of his homeland and was instead an act of simple premeditated murder. Leibler is perfectly correct in stating that the fear of offending the other party prevents true progress. Indeed, a conference wherein Shas rabbis sat down with Hamas leaders and openly spoke their minds, now that would be progress. The writer is a Saudi-US political analyst originally from London. She lives in Riyadh and London. This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com /servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331190739&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull [ Back to the Article ] Copyright 1995- 2008 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/
Candidly Speaking: Don't confuse interfaith dialogue with groveling Jul. 29, 2008
Isi Leibler , THE JERUSALEM POST A global conference promoting interfaith dialogue sponsored by the current Saudi regime sounds somewhat like South African proponents of apartheid holding a global kumbaya extolling the virtues of racial equality. That is not to deny that King Abdullah broke new ground by hosting an interfaith conference and for the first time inviting Jews to participate in a Saudi-sponsored event. Rabbi David Rosen, chairman of the International Jewish Committee on Interreligious Consultation, exuberantly described it as "an historic event" and a prelude "to the opening up of Saudi society," although he did caution that "time will tell if this is the beginning or just another event of no consequence." Regrettably, being hosted by King Abdullah had such an intoxicating impact on some Jewish participants that they lost their bearings and indulged in excessive praise of their host that degenerated into groveling. Rabbi Brad Hirschfeld, chairman of the National Center for Learning and Leadership, stressing that he was not naïve, claimed that immediately after he had blessed King Abdullah "with whom God shares divine glory," he saw the king's eyes fill with tears. Rabbi Michael Lerner, head of the radical Tikkun group, suggested that "for those of us who despair about Christianity and Judaism having gone astray... the notion that Islam might be the spark that generates a new religious revival based on mutual respect and spiritual intensity could dramatically expand our understanding of the endless potential for God to surprise us." Walter Ruby, from the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding, compared King Abdullah's initiative to Mikhail Gorbachev's perestroika, forgetting that the Soviet reformer initiated dramatic reforms within his country, whereas Saudi Arabia still represents the most extreme example of fanatical Wahhabi style Islamic extremism. In fact, state sponsored export of Wahhabism has produced a global network of jihadist Islamic schools and institutions which sanctify violence. This has led to the creation of centers throughout the world nurturing terrorist cadres and incubating many of the suicide bombers who are at the forefront of terrorist activities. Saudi Arabia denies entry to Jews and prohibits all religions other than Islam the right to establish houses of worship. Saudi imams openly promote virulent anti-Semitism, depicting Jews in mosques and on TV as descendents of apes and pigs who should be killed. To this day, the Saudi educational system continues to incorporate obscenely anti-Semitic texts. CLEARLY, KING Abdullah in his old age did not become transformed overnight into a liberal. But he is astute enough to realize that his country is under great threat from the expanding Iranian dominated Shi'ite crescent and is desperately seeking to bolster the regime's poor standing in the United States and Europe. That was the prime objective of Abdullah's interfaith conference. Not surprisingly, the conference took place in Madrid rather than Jedda or Mecca. Initially, "Rabbi" Yisroel Dovid Weiss, the New York Natorei Karta crackpot who had previously attended the Iranian Holocaust denial conference, was designated to be the only Jew to speak from the podium. After protests supported by an American Muslim imam engaged in interfaith activity, the Saudis backed down and disinvited Weiss. He was substituted by US interfaith guru Rabbi Arthur Schneier, who had hosted Pope Benedict XVI at his Park Avenue synagogue during his recent visit New York. No Israeli rabbis were invited. Rabbi David Rosen, being Israeli with dual nationality, was designated as an American. In fact, aside from a brief exchange, Israel was kept off the agenda. More importantly, whereas King Abdullah extolled the virtues of peace and condemned terrorism, participants were informed that only at a subsequent conference would "terrorism" be defined. Hitherto Moslems have denied that attacks against Israel were acts of terror, describing them as legitimate resistance. IT IS inexplicable why Jewish participants lacked the courage to raise the crucial issues that would not resonate with their hosts. How could Jewish leaders participate in such an event without even relating to the obscene, state-sanctioned religious anti-Semitic incitement openly promoted by the country sponsoring the event? How could they remain silent when a Saudi deputy minister of culture stated that "Islam is a moderate culture and we are determined to prevent extremists from hijacking Islam"? Surely they had an obligation to point out that while all three major monotheistic religions incorporate elements of militant piety and violence, Islam, with its dominant jihadist branches, today represents the most violent doctrine. To remain silent on these issues enabled the Saudis to exploit interfaith dialogue as a vehicle to obtain respectability and cover up their extremism. Jewish representatives also failed to protest when the concluding communiqué of the conference called "for international organizations to work to issue a document stating respect of faiths and religious symbols and criminalizing those insulting them." This seemingly innocuous statement embodies a call to legally sanction Islamic bullying against all who criticize or question Islamic beliefs or behavior as exemplified by the violence and vicious campaign in relation to Danish cartoons of the prophet Muhammad. Jews who are sensitive to the demonization of religious practice must nevertheless strongly oppose this. Failure to oppose such initiatives parallels liberal American Jewish leaders endorsing Muslim demands to outlaw security profiling, despite the fact that 95 percent of acts of global terrorism emanate from that group. WE ALSO do ourselves a great disservice if we endorse the false allegation that Islamaphobia is rampant. It is in fact a tribute to tolerance in Western countries that despite the violence and intimidation emanating from Muslims, overt aggression or discrimination against them has been extremely limited. Indeed, unlike synagogues, mosques rarely require armed guards, and in Europe, much of the violence directed against Jews actually emanates from Muslims. We must also demand reciprocity. Tolerance and rights for Muslims in Western countries must be matched by tolerance to non-Muslims in Islamic states. None of this detracts from our obligation to raise our voices against those who would condemn an entire religion because of the criminal behavior of individuals. Yet it is galling that in the Muslim arena there are virtually no such condemnations in relation to incitement against Israel, Jews, or even the US. Bottom line: Dialogue with the Catholic Church only succeeded because of openness and a will to proceed by both parties. Reputable Jewish organizations must recognize that dialogue with Muslims becomes counterproductive when they fail to present the Jewish case for fear of offending the other party or demean themselves by groveling to appease or curry favor with their hosts. All that is achieved is a façade of goodwill which ultimately only strengthens extremists at the expense of the few genuine moderates within the Islamic community. It was particularly scandalous and shameful that at a conference presided over by Saudi Arabians who babbled on about tolerance and goodwill, the Jewish participants did not insist on raising the issue of state-sponsored clerical anti-Semitism which is endemic in the country which hosted them. ileibler@netvision.net.il This article can also be read at http://www.jpost.com /servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331138031&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull [ Back to the Article ] Copyright 1995- 2008 The Jerusalem Post - http://www.jpost.com/ July 14 Israel is a constitutionally confirmed homeland guarantying Jews a 100% worldwide right to self-defense, it is not about colonizing ArabsWas creating Pakistan colonizing Asia too by the West as Arabs pretend over the creation of Israel?
Israel is a constitutionally confirmed homeland guarantying Jews a 100% worldwide right to self-defense, it is not about colonizing Arabs as much as a constitutionally confirmed French-Canadian homeland in Quebec is not about colonizing Arabs or the Middle East.
Jews have no constitutionally confirmed 100% right to self-defense without a confirmed homeland worldwide as French-Canadians have with a full constitutionally confirmed homeland in Quebec.
This text from Al Jazeera is focused on a few events without assessing the main international questions dealt by the international bodies in addressing the creation of Israel. Yes in any decision not accepted by populations where violence is exacted in bringing those decisions to terms there are consequences that can be very ugly. At the time of the conclusion of India's Independence from Britain, the disagreement in between Indian leaders of Muslim faith and other Indian leaders to create a state i.e. Pakistan for Muslims brought an incredible number of persons to die...too...and since the population of India is of extraordinary size that could qualify the size of events in Palestine as Lilliputian.
Muslims themselves in India asked for the creation of a separate state when Gandhi was against it. I mean is a Muslim proclaiming the overnight creation of a Muslim State in East Asia less of a Muslim because he wants a separate state?
Law is about jurisprudence. Was creating Pakistan colonizing Asia too by the West? Have Muslims in India demonstrated that they were at risks of total extermination as the Jews have been all over the world in order to get Pakistan as an exclusive Muslim state? There were always persecutions against the Jews all over the world, but before the Nazis, there was never a world size military organization set to defeat all the nations of the world in exterminating the Jews and they have shown quite realistically the size of the danger this represented for humanity. There may be constitutional uneasiness over Kashmir but if India over the creation of Pakistan had done as you Arabs are doing over the creation of Israel(ranging from total wars to promoting a federalism without recognition of a Jewish homeland i.e. the type of homeland French-Canadians have constitutionally in Canada with proportional powers) they would have been inflaming Pakistan and India forever since 1947... and nobody would have gained from it.
The Jews have their own destiny set by God as reflected in the Bible and cannot be left to be pawns of any nation fostering the disappearance of God's commands to them on earth. The Nazis have demonstrated that this was a possibility had the Allied countries not defeated them and this was done at great cost to humanity: the one of using atomic bombs... on Japan. Civilian populations suffered all over the world in order to stop the Nazi Era of world conquest in enslaving humanity and their first step in realizing fully this was total destruction of the Jews.
If any state admits that there is room for legal absolution of destruction of any human based on gender, ethnics or religion, it is the formal absolution of euthanasia on the same grounds and enslavement seems of a lesser evil but is in fact no less of a great evil because a slave is an object, a property... where it is very difficult to sue an owner for damaging his or her own property.The Jews were put in that position because they had no state of their own and there is no text that leaves any other possible outcome had the Nazis not been defeated. The community of the Babylonian Jews would have also been totally depleted had General Rommel won in the Middle East and Africa. This is the community of Jews who are the descendants of the Jews deported from Jerusalem. By biblical rights flowing from Middle East history, the Jerusalem Jews deported to Babylon were granted full emancipation from the King of Babylon.
Now are Muslims to repeal what God granted to Jews historically and that the Nazis were destroying with no right to self-defense... the right of self-defense so important and basic in Islamic Law? Jews have no constitutionally confirmed 100% right to self-defense without a confirmed homeland worldwide as French-Canadians have with a full constitutionally confirmed homeland.
French-Canadians in Quebec may have no separate official constitution in Canada and named as such but were given powers in the Canadian Constitution of 1867 that exceed by far any Muslim conception of protecting the Jews under Islamic constitutional conception. Thus, for instance to collect taxes as well as to set educational goals according to their culture and their needs in their homeland for education it is a provincial matter in terms of powers so perhaps Muslims should review their constitutional views to examine what is the best 100% method to constitutionally guaranty a 100% right to self-defense to everyone, they might come to see that the creation of Israel despite all the misery it has caused was the best longterm guaranty of world peace once humanity can agree that Jews are entitled to the same rights to self-defense as all nations of the world are.
Arab risks in identity in the context of world globalization are not a reason and shall never be a reason for denying the Jews their full 100% rights to self-defense in the world. Obviously, since the Middle East was at peace under King Solomon, it is because he made the demonstration to his neighbours that Israel's best guaranteed 100% right to existence and self-defense was a common good to all the Middle East nations.
Karole du Pont
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June 19 A window opened on more questioning over the duty to respect both nature and law in God's constitutional realm :how to promote both progress in national identities and societal justiceA window opened on more questioning over the duty to respect both nature and law in God's constitutional realm :how to promote both progress in national identities and societal justice
May 29 Canada must set in motion full constitutional recognition of the Native cultures scientific approach to Nature and of their rights to differential educational system----- Original Message -----
From: KAROLE DUPONT
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:46 PM
Subject: First uplift to Canadian justice towards Natives To all of you at the Center:
This is Karole du Pont which is on your Facebook list.
I have gladly signed your petition for changing the name of the Street Amherst in respect for the Natives.
Today there are many articles relatively to all the misdeeds that were committed against Natives in Canada
Following this article(see below my comment) found on Yahoo about the residential schools system and its main architect Duncan Campbell Scott; I would like to add the following comment:
Duncan Campbell Scott failed Canada and the Natives in many ways but the one which is never mentioned is that he deprived us all of the official recognition that natives in Canada have always been sceintific in approach to nature and that contrary to what was done with creating an educational system to destroy their culture their scientific study of nature should have been modeled and supported to a full differential educational system conform to the Native scientific approach to Nature. When I was working at the Quebec Environment Department of Sept-Iles one of our inspectors with a master in biology said that even with all her studies she felt like a total ignorant compared to the Natives raised traditionally. So the first uplift given by the commission announced in this article should be about the scientific recognition of Native cultures.
This would be the greatest uplift to the morale of all Native youngsters... a matter very close to my heart.
Karole du Pont
OTTAWA (Reuters) - After decades of foot-dragging, Canada is finally about to take a close look at what one aboriginal leader calls "the single most disgraceful, harmful and racist act in our history."
From the 1870s to the 1970s, around 150,000 native Indian children were forcibly removed from their parents and sent to distant residential schools, where many say they were abused mentally, physically and sexually.
Conditions in the schools -- run by various churches on behalf of the government -- were sometimes dire. Contemporary accounts suggest up to half the children in some institutions died of tuberculosis.
One prominent academic calls what happened a genocide, yet for many years few Canadians knew what had happened.
Now, for the first time, the mainstream population will be learning a lot more about what was done in its name.
As part of a C$1.9 billion ($1.9 billion) settlement between Ottawa and the 90,000 school survivors in May 2006 that ended years of law suits, a truth and reconciliation commission is set to start work on June 1.
The commission, which has a life span of five years, will travel across Canada and hold public hearings on the abuses.
"You have to get the truth out ... it seems impossible today but it's real, it happened," said federal Indian Affairs Minister Chuck Strahl.
Native leaders hope the commission -- to be headed by aboriginal Judge Harry LaForme -- will help improve ties between the largely marginalized one million native population and the rest of the 32 million people in Canada.
"I don't say that this is going to be a magic wand and everybody is going to feel good when this is over. But we do know there is a healing component to that sort of process," LaForme told Reuters.
Government officials at the time said the schools were supposed to educate native children. The other aim was to assimilate aboriginal peoples and crush their cultures.
Duncan Campbell Scott, a senior government bureaucrat dealing with aboriginal matters, declared in 1920 that "I want to get rid of the Indian problem. He added: "Our objective is to continue until there is not a single Indian in Canada that has not been absorbed into the body politic."
Children in the schools were called pigs and dogs. Teachers beat them if they used their own languages and told them they would go to hell unless they converted to Christianity.
Many parents never saw their sons and daughters again. Survivors often took to drugs and alcohol to dim the pain.
Although Canada spends around C$10 billion a year on the aboriginal population, many serious problems remain.
Native leaders say the destructive legacy of the schools helps explain the lamentable living conditions, poor health and high crime levels that many face today.
"I think Canadians will have a better appreciation of why we have become so stereotyped -- that we're lazy, or losers, or drunkards, or whatever. (This) resulted from a very destructive, oppressive colonization of aboriginal people," said Chief Robert Joseph. Critics, noting the commission will not have subpoena powers, say it will not make much of a difference. Roland Chrisjohn at the University of St. Thomas in New Brunswick says Ottawa must first admit that taking children from their parents and giving them to outsiders constituted an act of genocide. "Residential schools were about destroying our political systems, destroying our religious systems, destroying our communities, our cultures, our livelihood ... they largely succeeded," Chrisjohn said. The churches are suitably contrite. Fred Hiltz, primate of the Anglican Church of Canada, says religious authorities tried to "socialize and Christianize" aboriginal peoples. "We failed them, we failed ourselves, we failed God. We failed because of our racism and because of the belief that white ways were superior to aboriginal ways," he said. (For more details about the schools, click on http://www.wherearethechildren.ca/en/home.html) Ted Quewezance, executive director of the National Residential School Survivors' Society, is confident the commission will help efforts at reconciliation. Quewezance told Reuters he was abused physically and sexually during seven years at a school. When asked how he coped with the memories, he replied: "You just live with it, that's all." The residential schools scandal has strong parallels with what happened at the same time in Australia, where at least 100,000 aboriginal children were removed from their parents for a variety of reasons. Prime Minister Kevin Rudd apologized to the "Stolen Generations" in February. The United States also ran boarding schools for aboriginal Americans, but on a smaller scale. Strahl concedes there is a danger that years of public testimony about abuse could cause resentment among the mainstream population. "It's a two-edged sword ... the commissioners are going to be extremely important to make sure that it doesn't just become a bashing exercise, one way or the other," he said. And no one can tell whether Canadians will pay much attention to the hearings. Native leaders have long complained about what they say is a widespread ignorance of and indifference to the aboriginal population. "If they don't listen it will be a tragedy. I think once and for all we, as aboriginal people, will be certain that Canadians simply dismiss us as nothing important ... that would be the worst insult of all," said Joseph. For now, the official tone is one of optimism, especially since Prime Minister Stephen Harper will meet a key aboriginal demand on June 11 when he stands up in Parliament and formally apologizes to school survivors. LaForme says that if all goes to plan "we will be able to say, in the words of Archbishop Desmond Tutu, we have looked the beast in the eye. We have come to terms with our horrendous past and it will no longer keep us hostage." ($1=$0.99 Canadian) (Reporting by David Ljunggren; Editing by Eddie Evans) Understanding the nature of Judaism despite the political worldMy comment to Obadiah's Shoher's text: From Orthodoxy to fundamentalism
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Politics will never lead to correct identification of the reforms necessary and proportional to what Judaism is all about. What is basically democracy about… majority vote or definite will to study and discuss differences and policies peacefully? This means that humanity has to reach a higher level in conscientization in order to solve the difficulties. If there was no human on earth you would not see any fence in nature but those flowing from the differences in natures of the soils and elements such as water. Nature is the main difference inscribed in all humans such as demonstrated by the neural roads. The duty of Jews to search for the truth in applying the Law given to Moses must be proportional to the use of the word and identity wise and politically wise this is what has to be understood by all on earth.
Karole du Pont From Orthodoxy to fundamentalismThe current Judaism is an aberration. Rabbis introduced its most prominent concept, that of the fence around the law, when Jews went into the Exile. The gentile influence suddenly became great, the option of purifying oneself in the Temple was absent, and so the rabbis developed an immense body of legislation to protect against inadvertent prohibition of the Torah. It is possible that 99% of today’s Jewish regulations are those of the fence, of protecting the law, rather than of the law itself. A secular comparison would be this: a law prohibits murder, but the layers of fence prohibit buying weapons, handling weapons, looking at weapons, going to the movies where weapons are shown, and eventually passing near the movie theaters. By then, everyone forgot that the law sensibly sought to ban murder; people avoid passing by the movie theater but murder their compatriots with axes. The Exile has ended. Jews witnessed a string of miracles: salvation from Holocaust, establishing a state, winning all wars, the Temple Mount falling in our hands, Jewish economic and social influence in the world peaking. Not all Jews returned to Zion, but that’s a familiar problem. Most Jews remained in Egypt during the Exodus, and most Jews remained in Babylon when Nehemiah showed us that the Exile has ended. To adhere to the fence law is to renounce the divine plan made clear to us. Jews were taken back to Zion, and now have to revive the true Judaism of the Holy Land. We need to build the Temple and conduct purification ceremonies to absolve us of inadvertent violations. We need to cleanse the foreign influence out of the Holy Land so that Jews can walk our country freely without isolating ourselves from the community. Jewish ritual isolation, havdala, means we’re “the people who shall dwell alone.” We already dwell alone – or rather, we were giving an option of expelling the foreigners and having the country to ourselves. Havdala ends at Israeli borders. The rabbinical legislation was hugely beneficial when Jews lived among gentiles, but is counterproductive now. We didn’t eat chicken with cheese lest the onlookers imagine it is beef with milk. In the state of our own, basic kosher laws of the Torah should be enforced so that no one imagines such a violation, and the fence (e.g., extending the meat-milk prohibition to chicken) would become superfluous. It becomes irrelevant whether bread and wine were produced and sold by Jews, as in the Jewish state their consumption cannot lead to intermingling and assimilation. The kosher food laws in the Jews state would be back to the meaningful. The entire Israel is one eruv, a community with a degree of common ownership. All Jewish citizens of Israel jointly possess the country on the divine mandate, and therefore Jewish Israel is properly considered one eruv – especially now as we wall ourselves away from the Arabs with separation barrier. A Jewish Israel - an eruv - would have no restrictions on the movement of people and goods on Shabbat. But most religious Jews prefer living with the Exile Judaism even in the Land of Israel. They wait for the Messiah to bring them the Third Temple from heaven instead of building it themselves from scratch, as King Solomon and Ezra did, and creatively solving the resulting theological ambiguities as the Maccabees did. Religious Jews isolate themselves in the neighborhoods instead of expanding Judaism over the entire country. In practical terms, there is no difference between the Jews of Mea Shearim in Jerusalem and Boro Park in Brooklyn. Their religious practices are the same even though Judaism of the Holy Land and the Exile is vastly different. Religious Jews shamefully concentrate on technicalities, however important, rather than the big issues. I find it scandalous with religious parties in the Knesset scream over the court’s refusal to fine a handful of establishments which sold leavened bread on Pesach in Jerusalem, but stay in the government which admits to negotiating the giveaway of Jerusalem to Arabs and has actually abandoned the Temple Mount to Muslims. In one reformer’s words, “Hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin [which the Torah does not require], but neglected the weightier matters of the law.” He saw it correctly that many religious Jews concentrate on the easy rites of superfluous observance instead of going through with the really hard issues of core Judaism. It is obscene for a religious Jew in Jerusalem to wrap his kitchen with foil on Pesach to avoid the microscopic crumbs of leavened bread, while his Knesset representatives do nothing about the daily shelling of Shderot. Paganism is contagious. Once a nation allows some traces of paganism in, it erodes the religion with ever-increasing speed. The latest centuries saw a tremendous spike in truly pagan rites among Jews. From the reinstated pagan sacrifice of rooster (kaparot) to blowing kisses to mezuzah, to superstitious maintenance of “milk” and “meat” dish sets. Many rites have profound meaning, such as putting the right shoe on first (because Jews always start with right things, the loving-kindness) and lacing the left shoe first (to practice restraint in tying, withholding, punishing). However profound, however, a rite remains a rite. Hellenistic pagans undoubtedly ventured profound ethical, theological, and moral explanations of worshipping Zeus. The Torah painfully expunges the least traces of paganism from sacrifices and other rites which the Hebrew crowd was used to but which were given an entirely new meaning in Judaism. Just think of it, the altar was made of earth and later of unhewn stones so that Jews won’t adorn it in the familiar pagan fashion, but Torah scrolls are given silver crowns. We laughed at those who kiss statues and icons – only to see Jews kissing the Torah scrolls. Superstition is a belief that trivial things affect the divine will. And so many religious Jews carefully choose salt and lipstick “kosher for Pesach,” say blessings after successfully visiting latrine or seeing a lightning – but the immense desecration of the Holy Land by foreigners and Jewish traitors is of no immediate concern to them. For centuries, Jews poured a fifth glass of wine during the Pesach dinner, but left it untouched for the Prophet Eliyahu. The previous four glasses signify fulfillment of the divine promises given during the Exodus, but the fifth one refers to his promise to bring us into the Land of Israel. There was no other promise involved, whether of the Temple, Messiah, or a decent government – that’s our responsibility to do. In 1947, God has brought us into the land that he promised to Abraham, and did so with great fanfare, but I may be the only Jew who drinks the fifth glass. Paganism is a theological system which places rites and symbols between the men and their Creator. The Jews who speed-mumble standardized prayers three times a day, every single day, who plead for return to Zion instead of buying an air ticket there, who implore for Messiah instead of voting for Kahane, or Marzel, or even Feiglin, who supplicate for the Temple instead of building it – they surely have some big obstacle in the way of their communication with God. May 27 Like the Acadians, the Jews of the Middle East generally stem from one root.... either they were deported to Babylone or fled to Egypt or came back to JerusalemComment to Obadiah Shoher's text: The case for Judea
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The main problem is that the Jewish question i.e. right to a Homeland in the Middle East was adressed first from the point of view of the situation of European Jewry when the nomenclature of national rights to a homeland starts with the Deported Jews to Babylone's claim. Up to the fall of Saddam, there remain Jews in Babylone, now today's Iraq. Even transferring millions of Babylonian Jews had they been so many by the early 1900's would have represented a trauma for the Middle East… for it's hard for Jews to claim independance on national ground in locations where they never were sovereign where as in Jerusalem this historical sovereignty has existed. This is on the same grounds our Natives can claim their lands, they did not leave Canada. The refusal of the acceptance of the biological world is proportional to the genocidal policies we have seen in the various parts of the world… since yes the first generation is an immigrant one but the next one is a sabra. The one concept the Jews that came at the end of WWII have in common with the Babylonian Jews is that they were deported… and they survived or they were hiding escaping deportation. How many populations or nations in the world have been constantly historically under the threat of deportation? It all started with the Deported Jerusalem Jews to Babylon in the case of Jews and went on for thousands of years. IN North America, Acadians were deported by the British.. and they all stem from one homeland. An Acadian in Louisiana does not have its roots in Louisiana since Acadia was not in the US.
May 17 Confidence is based on truth as much as credibility is proportional to truth on the long termAs they say" one cannot fool all the people all the time".
When there is no trust, one has to identify the truth.
Truth is such that it opens the minds always to a greater understanding of each other and for each other.
It leads always to a greater level of conscientization and generates always a higher well-being for all. When truth is constitutionally applied, it could be illustrated by this lesson coming from this joke I received from a friend of mine recently:
A lady was being shown what life was like in paradise and hell. First she was shown what hell was like. She entered a room where she saw people with big spoons attached to their arms but the spoons were so long that they could not reach their mouth to eat. However the room was filled with the flavour coming from a delicious stew boiling in a big pot. The people she saw in hell were only bones and skin and had gloomy looks.
Then the lady was shown what paradise was like. She entered another room where the same exact food was being prepared with the same delicious smell . The people she saw there had the same big spoons attached to their arms that kept them from being able to feed themselves seen in hell... However, they were all happy and well fed since they were not skin and bones. It is that they decided to feed each other and it made all the difference. Yes the MIddle East has enormous challenges but the will to respect each other,s necessities for growth and survival is what will make the difference in making life better for all in the Middle East.
Karole du Pont Whatever the different visions of Lebanon, there is only one Lebanon and it is reflected in its various communities since they contribute all to its survivalRula Amin in her comments on Al-Jazeera: Qatar 's Al Jazeera's Rula Amin reported that there was a lot of hope that the talks would yield positive results. She stressed however
"that if people have a lot of hope that it will work, they know that the issues are real. The political factions that are here have different interests, different concerns and have different visions for Lebanon," .
But there is only one vision that brings peace for all, it is the vision to be fair for all.
Being fair for all means not destroying the possibility of everyone's children to live daily in peace while grown-ups can mind their differences constitutionally not with guns or bombs. Being fair for all means the highest level of justice for all where each community can grow harmoniously in its own identity and contributing to the growth of Lebanon.
By essence this is to this highest standard of justice the religious command of Christ refers to i.e. don't do to others what you don't want done unto you. Constitutionally, it is expressed by giving all which is necessary to maintain the various community identities of Lebanon without bringing situations where any community cannot resort strictly to the Lebanese highest court to have its rights respected.
This is what all politicians in Lebanon must be aiming at: a will architecturally maintained by all communities and institutions to protect each other's Lebanese particularities in Lebanese identity despite all political differences on managing Lebanon and remembering that peace is based on the willingness to be able to wait for scientific conclusions to a question and not on ruling out the question by killing its proponents.
Lebanon stands also as a member of the Middle East region with an extremely potent picture in the creation of a global regional culture. The Lebanese culture is so potent and keeps growing in potency in the Middle East despite all the war talk because it is in the heart of every Arab; it is a unifying culture ... as much as it can be seen by our attachment to Fairuz's singing.
The political discourse in the Middle East is in clash with its basic soul which is a tribute to the Middle East's love of life and beauty. This is why the greatest ambassadors of the Middle East's culture have been women such as Fairuz and Dalida.
Like Dalida I say Elhawa ya beladi... because being a Canadian with no Middlle Eastern biologial roots my heart is Middle Eastern.
Karole du Pont May 12 Talking about Une pépinière de talents au pays du Cèdre
Quote Une pépinière de talents au pays du Cèdre April 26 Let president Carter adress the national historical situation of the Deported Jews from Jerusalem to BabylonText to be developed this week
I have not read President Carter's latest book on Israel but when he came to Pierre Elliott Trudeau's funeral he was not afraid to meet Fidel Castro the other principal foreign dignitary paying respect to our former PM. President Carter has never been afraid to give its dues to Cuba and thus quoted the achievement of the Castrist regime in providing its citizens with one of if not the best health system in the world.
The Babylonian claim on Jerusalem is not a desecration of Islam or of the Palestinians , it is simply Babylonians entitled to their historical national rights over Jerusalem... as any First Nation of Canada can claim in Canada. Israel is celebrating its 60 years of existence this year... and those sixty years have been covered with heinous speeches from all sides be it from the Arabs, the international community or excessive Jews simply because the two sides of the equation have not been fully exposed and the situation of the Descendants of the Deported Jerusalem Jews is extremely difficult because being the descendants of the Jerusalem Jews they take heinous speeches very seriously. I mean saying the Arabs or Beduins are parasites or that the Jews are Apes or anything but human is a desecration of God our Creator. Those speeches may seem minor compared with wars but they are sure part of the desensitization scale to Arabs and Jews. The Jews and Arabs cannot pretend on excellency regarding control of heinous speeches... in their medias.
It means the situation of the Babylonian Jews has to be debated where laws against heinous speeches are very strictly applied as well as Laws against incitement to crime. In Quebec, we share a very high concern about heinous speeches and incitement to crime with the Babylonian Jewry because of a particular set of factors linked to our foundations.(to be further explained in the days to come).
April 25 Land recognition and cultural rights are proportional to a common application of Rule of Law
All countries will have problems transferring the Bible knowledge in the way it is phrased in terms of international law as "God gave us Israel". What other ethnics are to do in the various other countries, they are not mentioned in the Bible?
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